These boots have the great Keen fit that I love but the drawback for me was when I was hiking on the prairie with them. The cloth part of the boots filled with stickers, grasses and worst of all cactus. I didn't walk through cactus on purpose but didn't see one and several spines stuck through the top of the boot and into my foot. That boot is no longer water proof. I will always buy Keens but won't buy this one again.