I have purchased several Keens as I am a hiker. The last Targhees I got were too stiff and caused pain in the shins when walking a lot. I just bought a pair of Revell III for the winter. Very comfortable like the Keens I liked but after a long walk, same problem, too stiff, too hard (waste of $200+). Unfortunately I will need to find a new brand of hiking shoe/boots. Oh yes, I bought some Keen shoes, Oakridge type a few years ago. TOO STIFF again, gave them away. You need to soften up! Thanks for the 10yr ride.