the Targhee II was such a comfortable spacious shoe. The "upgrade" Targhee II misses the point. The toe box is narrow and the fit feels quite different. All this in an attempt to "streamline" the shoe and perhaps make it look a little more fashionable. The Targhee II Was a favorite for those of use doing long distance walks needing space for toes and now our options are limited! Too bad... The Targhee IIIs just don't do it.