Ordered these in black. Very comfortable similar to a running shoe. More ankle support than a runner. Not enough for a hiking boot. The seams on the toe started to give and waterproofing instantly were down. There is also a small hole starting in the mesh of the one toe. I was using these for work. Work in SK Canada. Walking/ running most of my shift for 10 hours. Great fitting and comfortable shoe (orthodic fits) quality is lacking.